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Continuing the discussion

Further to DJ’s original post, I’ve looked into pingbacks verses trackbacks to get a better understanding of the differences and how they do or don’t work when trying to thread together discussions between blogs.

  • trackbacks (howto) – the original (legacy) notification method
  • pingbacks (howto) – newer, automatic when link is in post content, displayed differently, no special URL is needed

I’ve noticed a steady increase in the use of blogs by programmers (ruby/rails focus now). Rails has tended to have quite vocal discussions emerge given its opinionated-ness and as a result this has provided me a way to look at how blogs are used to carry out the discussion.

I realise I too have this blog on WordPress.com so I’m pretty certain the pingback will work, to that end I’ll find something on blogger to try out the differences and see what happens. Again the rails community provides some insight into how well this might work, as a good many blogs use a somewhat heterogeneous set of blog engines (more detail…).

What are the mechanics, benefits and limitations of using individual blogs to manage a multi-person discussion?

Mechanics

Each person needs their own blog as opposed to just jumping onto a common discussion board. Of course, if everyone grabs a blog from one provider (wordpress.com or blogger for example) then the situation is a perhaps bit different – the technical issues around integration and reliance on pingbacks are hopefully muted but there’s less diversity in the blogs. However, with the diversity of themes available the underlying blog engine mightn’t be readily discernible anyway. I’m not sure if there are issues with the lack of diversity, perhaps the impact of competition and features might be one issue though.

Limitations

Multiple blog posts on multiple blogs or discussion through the comments on one post. Reading through a single (long) list of comments is more akin to a discussion forum and is possibly more cohesive. The alternative is jumping through a whole lot of different blogs (with their own personalisations, look and feel, etc) which is probably going reduce cohesiveness of the conversation. Even ensuring you’re reading through it chronologically might be tricky.

Benefits

One clear benefit I see from a learning, reflection, tracking/assessment standpoint is that each person’s contribution are clearly identifiable as they’re all collected on their own blog. This is where I see the whole ePoprtfolio thing going – the blog provides a very flexible platform to do all all sorts of ePortfolio type activity without needed an ePortfolio product.

Blogs allow the author’s interests and escapades in work/life to be intermingled into their conversations. Taking the rails example again, an author might take up a particular point in a multi-blog conversation but the post beforehand addresses implementing a new rake task and the one after is about a new camera. These multiple aspects of a person can provide a greater insight into the author’s way of thinking as it might apply to the larger conversation.

As opposed to a topical discussion board or thread, a blog might be involved in various and completely disparate conversations within a range of cummunities. Again this builds a bigger picture of the author.

Well, there’s a start. My first pingback and all. How exciting 🙂

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ePortfolio or blog – is it just how you use it?

George Siemens mentioned Elgg as a great ePortfolio product, and None mentioned them again the other day:

I have today completed a draft for an assessment item in one of my course redesign projects (see attached). What is clearly needed here is an ePortfolio and a simple tool to allow students to reflect on their learning journey…

Any thoughts on portfolio-based assessment?

Yes…

Your last comment reminded me of my brother’s portfolio he had to put together for one of his final subjects (a year or so ago I think). As it was multimedia, he had to make the site, but he included work he’d done privately and throughout his degree. It’s not even hosted at the uni and still available : http://users.on.net/~fitzhood/index.html

After looking at the sakai based eportfolio product a couple of years ago I’m wary of just jumping aboard the Product bandwagon, I still maintain that a blog is perfect for this – much better organised and with the likes of WordPress/blogger, very open, standard and interconnected. And they’re always getting updated with new features, easier to use interfaces and better connections to other sites.

Looking at the screenshots for Elgg, I was somewhat impressed but wondered just how useful that system might be, compared to the LMS or facebook already. It’s certainly better than the sakai eportfolio thing though!!

Way back, when a few of us students did the Webfuse special topic with DJ we used a local install of the MovableType blog for exactly the sort of stuff that’s mentioned in this assessment. Although I always lagged with getting the reflection done in time, looking back it was a good thing to write out and quite useful/valuable (in hindsight:). So again, I get to wondering exactly what is the difference between a blog and an eportfolio when looking at the products and the outcomes we’re wanting from them.

If students were consistent in applying themselves to reflecting when requested (like I generally didn’t:) I think it’s quite a good approach.

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